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 Post subject: The Just World
PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:55 pm 
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Does Karma exist? Do bad guys get what they deserve in the end? Does the hard work and diligence of a good man pay off over time? Is there such a thing as justice? In the scale of 'light side' vs. 'dark side' -- are they evenly matched in all things?


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 Post subject: Re: The Just World
PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:48 pm 
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I think the Universe has to be just and matched evenly, but we can't see it from our level of consciousness. I believe both good and bad karma exists.

What we sow is what we reap, but we might not reap it in this lifetime. Say, for example, you killed a lot of people or animals, or stole a lot of money. How could you possibily pay for all that bad karma in one lifetime? You couldn't -you would have to come back to receive justice for what you did. Universal justice will be served.

I know, it hardly seems fair that we should suffer in this lifetime for what we did in a past life, for something we can't even remember! We also receive many benefits now from what we did in past lifetimes, which we also can't remember doing, but we don't complain about that -only about the bad karma. We like the good stuff when it happens.

We all have a mix of good karma and bad karma, or else we would have been killed off by now. We have to learn to stop creating bad karma, and we will keep coming back, lifetime after lifetime, until we learn this important lesson. Did you see the film called 'Groundhog Day' with Bill Murray and Andie MacDowell? In a way, its sort of like that. Murray was stuck in Punxsutawney until he got it right. Who knows how long he was stuck there!


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 Post subject: Re: The Just World
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Does Karma exist? Do bad guys get what they deserve in the end? Does the hard work and diligence of a good man pay off over time? Is there such a thing as justice? In the scale of 'light side' vs. 'dark side' -- are they evenly matched in all things?


I think that ultimately yes Karma does exist. I've seen enough examples in my lifetime thus far to easily say as much. Call it irony but what comes around certainly seems to go around. Is it mere coincidence? I don't know. From what I have seen when you do something bad it definitely comes back to bite you. When you do something good, something good in turn does happen. I don't really think that everything that happens to us IS karma in effect though because sometimes shit just happens and you all know the phrase "Why do bad things happen to good people?". Well I think that is because it's not a perfect world, but when these negative things happen to us that is the opportunity to create the karma we will eventually receive. For example, if someone hits you in traffic you have a couple choices on how to react and handle the situation. Based on that reaction, you may or may not have good or bad karma coming back to you.

Justice, is a whole other story IMHO. I think justice is pretty....how do I say it.....Bull*hit. The justice in this country seems to be doled out by the very people who should be brought to it. I smoke marijuana, and according to the law in order to be brought to justice I should be in jail, face hefty penalties, and probably have a few years of probation that will land me back in jail anyways because it's a fixed system, and basically my life should be made as difficult and strenuous as possible. That's not exactly what I would call justice, especially considering the fact that what I do hurts no one, doesn't negatively effect my life, and is done in the privacy of my own home. Then I've seen people who do all kinds of illegal stuff that really is harmful to others get away with it for years and years. Eventually they all get busted, but are they brought to task for everything they have done? No. Then they are right back out doing the same thing, but ME? No no no, can't have a stoner out there doing no harm to anyone, that might unsettle the fabric of society.

Does the hard work and diligence of a good man pay off? Depends on how you are talking. Is that person financially stable as a result or are they still scraping by and struggling to live a somewhat comfortable life? Does it tax their mind and body to the point that they don't have the motivation or energy to much else? There's a lot of questions there. I don't know about this one. In this world it really seems that a lot of the people who really don't deserve "the good life" get it, and those that really do, don't. That's not justice if you ask me, that's the poor staying poor and the rich staying rich.

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 Post subject: Re: The Just World
PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:57 pm 
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The current idea of karma is moronic and keeps sheeples in fear.

Karma is mainly two things.

Your planets
Seeds or enegry imprints stored in the charka's that you build up and carry life to life.

You can be the nicest person and still have evil shit happen. It happens all the time. You can be evil and die in wealth and easy of old age. Happens all the time. So with the moral ghey out of the way.


When a person goes into certain transits of Saturn. The inner seeds in the soul get really triggered and germinate leading the person into a situation that is not fun. That is fate.

The way to overcome this is by the real 8 fold path of Yoga. The increased Kundalini energy burns this dross out of your soul and cleans you from the inside out(thinking weed pulling). I just came out of a two year transit that should have left me dead. But with help from the Gods and working like crazy I cleaned the karma out of me. It was not a pleasent process but it was better then the other choice.


Also with the proper Yogic process the energy level goes up to more and more where the vibration of the lower octave of Saturn effects the person less and less in general to the point they are free of it. Every person on this planet who ever died did so in a Saturn transit. The Grim reaper is literally an image of the planet Saturn. The Death card in the tarot is the card of Saturn.

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 Post subject: Re: The Just World
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:07 am 
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The Misconception: People who are losing at the game of life must have done something to deserve it.

The Truth: The beneficiaries of good fortune often do nothing to earn it, and bad people often get away with their actions without consequences.


http://youarenotsosmart.com/2010/06/07/ ... d-fallacy/

A bit to think on from the net...


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 Post subject: Re: The Just World
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 Post subject: Re: The Just World
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:49 pm 
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I guess if you were an evil person then you would try to keep karma at bay at all times while poor desperate good people should embrace it? ;-P

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 Post subject: Re: The Just World
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:10 pm 
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We all have a born fate(karma). Only by knowledge applied can it be overcome. And liberation had.

Seven wrote:
I guess if you were an evil person then you would try to keep karma at bay at all times while poor desperate good people should embrace it? ;-P

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 Post subject: Re: The Just World
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We all have a born fate(karma). Only by knowledge applied can it be overcome. And liberation had.


I think you're on to something here my man...


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