Being in the light has to be different from being in the dark. Light brings with it everything we perceive. Science states that we really only perceive light. Nothing really is visible unless light has bounced off it and into our eyes. Light also brings with its nature life. The more light a creature needs to live, the more complex it is. This, in essence, is the nature of physical light.

There is a spiritual light that coresponds from the physical light. In the same way that light dispels darkness in the physical realm, spiritual light also dispels spirtual darkness. In fact a good way to know spiritual darkness from spiritual light is observe what happens when darkness is exposed to the light.

Take this quote from a Satanist for instance, I only use this because Satanism is very easy to identify the dark teachings. There is darkness in many ideas, philosophies and religions this is only an example of one.

In empowering ourselves, truth be known, and I speak from experience here:
There are no special dietary laws
There are no special ways of living or being- in other words, you are FREE to be yourself and live your life as you choose
There are no sexual taboos, meaning- you are free to have sex as you choose, with whom you choose, and as often as you choose

The only thing that IS relevant with these disciplines is CONSISTENT PRACTICE, and nothing more. The essence of these teachings are all about developing the powers of the mind and soul, which are open to everyone in the universe. You don't have to live your life by certain laws.

When one reads this it sounds inviting but at what angle? It appeals to the baser instincts of a human. Some might assume this to be an invitation to live freely, but is it really freedom? Think of the consequences, that is, the effects living like this would have on a person physically and again spirtually.

The Dark Side always wants to draw things into its muck and mire. While promising freedom they are really slaves of there own depravity and baser nature.

A characteristic of light is its high vibrational tendencies, that is, high frequencies and high particular vibrations. Thus a truly free and evanescent state.

What kind of activity is there when one is not actively engaged in lifting themselves out of the muck and mire of their baser instincts and trying to become a true human?

What if one simply ate and drank whatever they wanted with no self control?

What if one simply lived the way they wanted for themself with no restraints, taking whatever they wanted and doing whatever they wanted to another person simply because they were excersising their so-called freedom?

What if one simply had sex with whomever they wished whenever they wished with no constraints?

Can you see what madness this "pardon the term" philosophy is? It deprives that one of true bliss and others of that same bliss.

The light brings with it clarity and comfort. Darkness only brings confusion and lonliness. The darkside will always try to cloud issues and never addresses the root of a problem. The darkside attempts to conceal or shadow the light. It always has an agenda. It will always want to hate or despise something whether it be a person, place, thing or idea. The darkside will always claim to have the light and always promise freedom.

I must put this out, the darkside does have a type of freedom. That freedom is to be in the dark and whatever nature the dark brings with it is within that one's scope of freedom. Thus the darkside finds its bliss in knowing that it can willfully defy the light and be seperated from it forever making itself a diametrically opposed ground for the light to work its nature.

An excerpt from Dark vs. Light:

"It is easy enough to be a Michael, a Gabriel, an Uriel; a celestial pastime to be a seraph or cherub. But it is quite a different thing to be a Lucifer, the greatest primordial spirit after You, knowing what infinite bliss Your boundless love offers and, at the same time, knowing what growing torment Your judgment and wrath offer! And, still scorning all beatitude and eternal torment, to offer unwavering defiance forever, well aware of one's impotence, without the least hope of ever gaining anything and knowing that one can only eternally lose - such helpless greatness of a creature's will is endlessly greater than the greatness of Your Deity! And this knowledge brings me greater bliss in all my torment than You and all Your spirits and angels could ever experience! Therefore, do not ever ask me how much longer I shall defy You! My answer shall always be the same: Forever! Forever! God will never bend me!"

Your a retard who takes from it's superiors to slander.

I would rather be a subordinate in the Light than a Superior in Darkness.

It seems to me that you have an unhealthy interest in controversy. Starting quarrels and bad mouthing other's free-thoughts...Is that a perk of the dark side?

Your rhetoric sounds more like a psycholigical symptom of delusional megalaegotism, than it does "truth" as you love to trumpet.

What does it feel like in the morning when you wake up look in the mirror and realize that you are not "energy" as you think you are? If you are so far advanced, then why do you have to go onto this little insignificant jedi web page to tell everyone how amazing and awesome you are and that you are the vicar of all wisdom and it shall surely die with you?

I simply think its funny that you would never want me to post in your thread, but you love to spread your manure all over mine. It seems a bit inconsistent for one who has ascended so far above all others.

My personal opinion of you is that you are a funny bald little fat guy who plays video games 13 hours day and usually forgets to wash himself during the week. One of the biggest perks in your life is probably when your mother tells you that she is going to clean your room for your birthday. Sound familiar?

I'm sorry but you have been asking to taste my lightsaber for a while now. And I am only doing this to defend all the others that you seem to dismiss as mere entities and not real people.

And the only reason I laid my saber at your feet in the "Sin2" thread was to show everyone how truly dark and merciless you really are.

Aryas is playing dozens again. How cute.

Epiphinein, great post!

To be completely light and to be completely dark is difficult. It brings to mind the idea of duality.

It is said that Lucifer fell because he wanted to make Heaven a better place, his goal could be perceived as good, but the method of getting there and what morals would be followed are perceived as evil.

In retrospect, to Lucifer, God's intent is bad (because it demands servitude) but the means is good.

Our perception determines everything. Just the same here (since he's present and I can use him as an example) Aryas here could be perceived as a negative influence here. Daimo, the fact that someone can take his own words and turn them into a lesson for the masses to read causes the potential for a wonderful influence. In his case-and that of many others who cyberbully/troll, it depends greatly upon the individual manipulating the threads to produce a training ground.

Now, you face another issue. Are those manipulating the threads to create a more intelligent environment at the cost of the troll/cyberbully's expense evil? Or are they good? Or does it fall within the "Shadow" line?

I have a healthy interest in calling bullshit on bullshitters.

The whole premise of your hachet job post is it's horrible to allow people to have the personal freedom to live and develop themselves as beings, without having some rhp gawd sqaud shoving some pious, anti-life bullshit down their gullet.

My goal is to be completely light, not that I have reached perfection but I press on toward the mark toward the goal. In other words, I don't box like one beating the air. You see what I'm saying.

I always want to draw out a dualistic lesson from what I can. I don't believe I have any issue or confusion in perceiving what is right at the moment and what is wrong at the moment. It's like the homeless guy that comes up to you and has a huge story as to why he needs 5 bucks. Some say don't give it to him, he only wants drugs with the money, but I simply see that it is my duty to give when I can and it is his duty to stop using drugs. If I am so inclined I could tell him not to buy drugs with the money, even though I know he probably will. But should that hinder a kind act? Not in my eyes. It all spins around. Arays is there for something to bounce off of as is everything.

There has to be ground for light and dark to work from. We simply choose what is light and what is dark. The ground is beyond our control.

To be honest with you. I don't believe evil and darkness even exists when you view it in its eternal nature. Light seems to be the only thing that is there. What Arays is doing and saying and what I am doing and saying is greatly insignificant compared to a truly eternal light inhabiting and permeating all infinite eternity. We are both simply here to show dualism in the most finite and primitive sense. But what we say and do here has dramatic effects within our own personally dualistic nature.

Even so called shadows believe and thrive in the world of dualism, but they only reach as far as the shadow will reach, so with that said, Why bother fooling ourselves into thinking that perfection is impossible?

I asked one of the jedi's in our right to draw a perfect circle. He told me he couldn't. So I said I would draw it for him. I drew a circle and showed it to him. He said, "that's not perfect" I said, "why not?". He pointed out what he thought were flaws. I asked him, "But is it a circle and if I asked you what this was what would you say?". He said, "a circle". I told him "exactly!". So is it not a perfect circle? He still didn't get it. So I asked him what makes something perfect? He didn't know. I said, the thing that makes you perfect is being what you are supposed to be so others know what you are. Your perfection may come in different shapes and sizes, but as long as you are complete you are perfect." He got it then. The circle was not mathematically perfect, but it was a perfect circle, for it was a circle none-the-less. And so is everyone.

If you are a devil then be a perfect devil. If you are an angel then be a perfect angel. If you are anything then be it completely. Even if you are a shadow then you are a perfect shadow. But never imagine yourself as someone who can't change. For in that we find our greatest perfection.

Socrates said, "I am the smartest man in the world because I know that I know nothing". With this humble attitude toward life, is it not an assured thing that perfection is right around the corner?

"In essentials, Unity; In non-essentials, Liberty; and in all things, Charity."
19th Century slogan of the Stone-Campbell Movement

Your circle is a wonderful analogy.

"What does it mean to be in the Light?"

It means to not be in the dark. ; )

hey everyone just remember, it aint about a thing.


-Jedi Mind

I understand what you are saying, but on the contrary the light is a thing. The light includes all things and all things are included in the light. Whatever is not of the light "ain't a thing". <smile> What physical thing do you know of that is not made of light particles/frequencies?

Without light there is nothing, but the light is that very thing that separates the "nothing" from the "something"...

Even as a noun light is something. Even as an adjective light is something.

Light is the expression of emanation from a primal source or cause, just like our sun. The sun is known because of the light that shines from it.

Energy and matter are always interconnected -- at least that is what I read in some kind of physics book who knows how long ago.

I think Aryas you think of the 'good/light' side as people shoveling dogma. Dogma makes people crazy and slaves to what they are told.

I think that Epiph actually is saying that there is no rewards without self-discipline, practice and striving to be more then what we are and that some Satanic precepts about "do whatever you want whenever and however" are extremely counter productive in actual practice.

I think Aryas you need to post an actual photo of yourself, I'm now dying to know if you're a little bald man in a basement. I like seeing all the photos here - what a good looking bunch of Jedi we have.

If the rhp dross books was correct then we should all be walking on water just by conforming to social norms and general obedience to current laws within the society. The fact that has not happened shows there is no spiritual power contained within them. They are just behaviour modification identical to Pavlov's dogs techinques. By it's fruits after all.



To be frank, epipes is talking(typing) out his ass, like a typically butthurt rhp peon. Everything you just listed is the basic nature of every Spiritual Satanist. I don't know many other people outside of myself where I live that get up around 3:30AM to do advanced power meditations for several hours, then again at noon and for several more hours in the eveing. That with along with school, work and general study.

That is the place is personal discipline is required in order to work towards the enlightenment of the soul. The average christian puke around here could not pull off half of that. Beyond that whatever, a person is free to decide their own feelings, thoughts and likes and dislikes and to find truth within and without. That freedom seems to scare people who are so inferior and servile they need to be told what to do, think and feel 24/7.



No, I don't have a web cam and I am not spending the money to get one. I look a lot like my avatar just with shorter hair a tan and I don't have violet seven point stars coming out of my hands. And no I don't look like Levay who was the founder of the COS not JOS.

Sounds to me, Aryas, you aren't obtaining anything because you are trying too hard. I use to be that way.

Made me very bitter, got no where with it. So you probably aren't going anywhere in life either.

Epip's a soldier?! XD! Thank you for serving!

To you.

You're computer savvy enough to have a cellphone or a regular camera, no? This just show's you're lazy or perhaps scared. I don't believe you look anything as you describe here based on this comment alone.

Sounds a lot like fear that someone is going to come after you. I'm still gauging you at high school age. But that's alright. In time, you'll grow out of this phase and move along the path of life as any other normal individual. Until then, good luck with the economy, hope it works in your favor. If I were you, I'd work on my resume more than coming onto a board where your sole purpose is to tear down the foundation of a group of spiritual seekers.

It's just not working. People that find themselves on this path, usually have a great deal of confidence in who they are, which is why they are able to truly begin their spiritual journey. Confidence builds strong walls against people like you (cyberbullies)-and many times, they are able to defend others against trolls and cyberbullies.

For the record, if you are in the states (and I'm pretty sure that this board is ran stateside), Cyberbullying is picking up interest. People are working to making it a crime if something happens to the individual being bullied.

http://www.cyberbullying.us/index.php

You can find a couple of European sites from there as well, and I believe there's a Canadian on there too.

Just a heads up, you could be on that list of criminals one day .

I am sorry that I some how left you with the impression I have to vaildate your every whim towards myself, khazaress. And no I don't have a camera or cell phone.