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Do you feel that the Star Wars quotes listed in this message accurately represent Jedi teachings?
Yes, the quotes represent Jedi teachings. 93%  93%  [ 53 ]
No, the quotes do not represent Jedi teachings. 7%  7%  [ 4 ]
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 Post subject: Re: Jedi Sanctuary Teachings
PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:19 am 
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I like that - I don't know if I've heard it before. Maybe we should add it?


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 Post subject: Re: Jedi Sanctuary Teachings
PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:10 am 
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There is no Emotion; There is Peace.
There is no Ignorance; There is Knowledge.
There is no Passion; There is Serenity.
There is no Chaos; There is Harmony.
There is no Death; There is the Force.

That is the Jedi Code as I found it in a book of the first movie. The book was supposed to tell the main story line as well as a few perspectives that the movie didn't show; namely Aniken's story. This is also the Jedi Code as given in Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic and although I can't remember it now since it's been so long it might be in SWKotOR2 as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Jedi Sanctuary Teachings
PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:52 am 
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lol yeah thats right... I cant believe i put there is the force, you are correct it is there is harmony i put that down to a mental block or something, and yes its in KOTOR.... 1 i think and a few of the books.

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 Post subject: Re: Jedi Sanctuary Teachings
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Scratbuster wrote:
ok i agree with it all and am familiar with the most part... but i had a question about the jedi code....

Why do we not display the chaos tenet...

"There is no chaos, there is Harmony"

or have i picked that up from somewhere completely different?

Doesnt matter I guess but I just always liked that one... helps me keep my cool

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Scratbuster, I believe that line is quite possibly more important than the rest of the code put together.

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 Post subject: Re: Jedi Sanctuary Teachings
PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:57 am 
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I agree, Rivan, which is why I can't understand why some people would have it removed.

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 Post subject: Re: Jedi Sanctuary Teachings
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I include it in mine. There are actually four versions of the Jedi Code. But everyone seems to focus on that one - which is my least favorite :)

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 Post subject: Re: Jedi Sanctuary Teachings
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It is my favorite because it is the first one I found and it is what originally got me into the Jedi religion.

What are the other four though, and what do they mean? Perhaps you could make a lesson out of it, Rivan.

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 Post subject: Re: Jedi Sanctuary Teachings
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:07 am 
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Maybe it should have been broken up in separate parts, wall of text? Either way the read was good and information was pertinent.

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 Post subject: Re: Jedi Sanctuary Teachings
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:10 am 
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Rivan Elan wrote:
I include it in mine. There are actually four versions of the Jedi Code. But everyone seems to focus on that one - which is my least favorite :)

Rivan Elan, Jedi


Are you referring to the original:
Emotion, yet peace.
Ignorance, yet knowledge.
Passion, yet serenity.
Chaos, yet harmony.
Death, yet the Force.

Or the refined Luke version:
Jedi are the guardians of peace in the galaxy.
Jedi use their powers to defend and to protect.
Jedi respect all life, in any form.
Jedi serve others rather than ruling over them, for the good of the galaxy.
Jedi seek to improve themselves through knowledge and training.

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 Post subject: Re: Jedi Sanctuary Teachings
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:36 pm 
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can everyone post every version they know? i find it intriguing and would like to know more

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 Post subject: Re: Jedi Sanctuary Teachings
PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:43 pm 
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The original code was as follows:

Emotion, yet peace
Ignorance, yet knowledge
Passion, yet serenity
Chaos, yet harmony
Death, yet the Force

the Jedi Odan-Urr refined it to:

There is no emotion, there is peace
There is no ignorance, there is knowledge
There is no passion, there is serenity
There is no death, there is the Force

The fourth line, "There is no chaos, there is harmony" is added by some Jedi, left out by others. Personally, I prefer Odan-Urr's version(either with or without the optional line), as it maintains the esoteric nature of the code while refining it just enough to remove some mild confusion.

My personal interpretation is that the code is not denying in any way the existence of emotion, ignorance or passion, but saying that wherever those attributes arise, there exists the opportunity for their counterparts, peace, knowledge, and serenity respectively. As to the last line, I take this much more literally; that one does not "die", per se, but rather returns to the living energy of the Force.

As to Luke Skywalker's Jedi creed, as follows:

Jedi are the guardians of peace in the galaxy.
Jedi use their powers to defend and to protect.
Jedi respect all life, in any form.
Jedi serve others rather than ruling over them, for the good of the galaxy.
Jedi seek to improve themselves through knowledge and training.

I think it's too easy. True, it is a very succinct description of what Jedi do, but it doesn't, to my mind anyway, embody the underlying nature of what it means tobe Jedi, nor does it leave that element of mystery to the code, which I think is so very necessary.


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 Post subject: Re: Jedi Sanctuary Teachings
PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:08 am 
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Ben-Oni wrote:
My personal interpretation is that the code is not denying in any way the existence of emotion, ignorance or passion, but saying that wherever those attributes arise, there exists the opportunity for their counterparts, peace, knowledge, and serenity respectively. As to the last line, I take this much more literally; that one does not "die", per se, but rather returns to the living energy of the Force.


It is actually for this reason that I personally prefer the original version, because it emphasizes that peace, knowledge and serenity exist despite emotion, ignorance, and passion instead of replacing them entirely.


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 Post subject: Re: Jedi Sanctuary Teachings
PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:49 am 
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I agree with Soron here.

Emotion, yet peace
Ignorance, yet knowledge
Passion, yet serenity
Chaos, yet harmony
Death, yet the Force

There is emotion, ignorance, passion, chaos and death. But the old version of the code also shows away beyond them. You will always have emotion, but you can also come out the other side of that emotion peacefully.


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 Post subject: Re: Jedi Sanctuary Teachings
PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:14 pm 
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Thanks. The individual Jedi should decide what version they like best, in my opinion. I think we will add that version of the Jedi Code as well:

Emotion, yet peace
Ignorance, yet knowledge
Passion, yet serenity
Chaos, yet harmony
Death, yet the Force

MTFBWY! JK


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